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need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:48 pm

I have a new mac, my first, and am desperately trying to set up a server on it. i had a server on my pc and setup was a piece of cake. i have tried crossftp and pureftp and cant get either to work. what the hell am i doing wrong? i have followed the beginners guide and tried some other things that i have seen on this board and still nothing. no connection whatsoever. i dont know if its a mac thing but i am getting pretty frustrated. will someone please help me. i just want to set up one account so i can share music with some friends. its all legal, just sharing recordings in case anyone cares.

thanks!
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:15 pm

ok, if this helps at all assessing my problem, i can connect using localhost and port 21 and download anything. when i connect using localhost and the assigned port it connects, but i am unable to download anything. and i still cannot connect using my ip address or my domain name. any ideas?
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby alex » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:20 am

Hence you can connect on your local machine, but you cannot connect to the server from other computer?
You need to setup the port forward if you are behind a router. Please refer to http://www.crossftp.com/kb/entry/32/
It may seems little confusing, but actually quite straight forward. Any problems, let us know.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:45 pm

i still can not get it to work. I am running behind two routers so maybe i am not setting them both up the right way. i am opening both port 21 and the assigned port on both routers in everyway possible. the two routers are an AT&T Uverse 2WIRE gateway and a D-Link DI-624. I have the dlink contected to the 2wire via ethernet and run my wirless network off the dlink. i had to do it this way because airport express would not work with the 2wire so i could listen to music through my stereo. the dlink handles it just fine. the dlink you can open ports via a virtual server, in the firewall settings, and by application. i have done all of these.

thanks for the help.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby alex » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:52 am

Two routers could be little too complex to configure properly. You may consider some online FTP file sharing service for their simplicity, such as Bluehost, Dreamhost, MobileMe, or Amazon S3. CrossFTP client support all these sites properly.

If you want to continue for your own File server, check the following:
In addition to port 21 (command channel), you need to port forward the PASV port, as described in Step 2 in the page http://www.crossftp.com/kb/entry/32/
, and define the PASV IP address. You can use the PASV port range 50000-50004, i.e., port forward this range of ports to your server, and setup the CrossFTP Server's PASV port range to this 50000-50004.
After the setup, you'd better use a professional FTP client, e.g., CrossFTP client, to do a test to connect to the server. If the connection failed, you can paste the errors to help identify the error.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:41 am

im sorry, im just not getting it. i have forwarded all the ports and still nothing. maybe its my configuration, could that be. can we just start with configuring the server. on the main window it says server host is localhost, server port is my assigned port that i entered on the general tab and security says allow TLS/SSL sessions and regular sessions. do you see anything there?

and on advanced i have 50000-50004 and my dyndns server name for PASV ip address. is that right?

sorry. i feel like a complete dumbass, but really want to get this to work.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby alex » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:01 am

Yes, every configuration looks just fine. The Configure -> General -> Server Host should leave blank to allow all connections in addition to the localhost.
Then you'd try using CrossFTP client to connect from external, and write down the client's error message here. You may let me know or PM me your dynamic dns to assist your test using CrossFTP client.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:31 am

all it says is...

[R1] operation timed out.
[R1] connection lost.

when i try to connect which port do i use?
should i be using anonymous to test it? i am using a user login i setup.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby alex » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:30 pm

It seems that even the command channel cannot be connected.
Let's assume your server's port is 21, then normally you need to port forward this 21 port from your router to your computer, and use 21 as the FTP port on your FTP client to connect to your router.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:16 pm

i have all ports forwarded, even the PASV ports, and none of them work.

I tried changing the server port to 21 but the server wont start if its 21. is that right?
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby alex » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:19 pm

Oh, yes, Mac does not allow normal users to use 21 port. You can just keep 8021 as your server's listening port, and port forward the 8021 port from your router to your server. After that, use FTP client to connect to the 8021 port, and at least you need to see the command channel to work properly. Otherwise, probably the port forward on the router is not properly configured.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:32 pm

alright, you seem pretty positive the problem is with the port settings. i will play with that more and let you know.

Thanks Alex.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:02 pm

still nothing. i have been posting over at portforward.com to make sure i am doing that correctly and from the the responses i get, it appears that everything is correct. i dont know what the hell is wrong. i must be a complete idiot.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby alex » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:24 am

Two routers between the server and client is not an easy thing to configure, hence it's not your fault. Can you paste the full error from the client.
Meanwhile, the next CrossFTP Server version plans to support the dnd plug so that the router can be configured automatically.
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Re: need help. lots of it.

Postby quantegy » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:20 am

it actually is pretty easy. unless i am getting lied to or getting wrong information from portforward.com, i am confident i have it configured right. bittorrent works perfect, my server on my pc worked perfect. this does not. there has to be some other reason.

here is my thread over on portforward.com...

http://forum.portforward.com/YaBB.cgi?num=1234835586/0

any other suggestions?
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